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Old October 24th, 2013
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Unfortunately I did not get a chance to go out yesterday since I got home late and fell asleep watching TV before I was going to head out.
However, I am taking my Max with me to my fiancee's place so we can use it in her car this weekend.

The good thing is it will give me the opportunity to test my new Max in new areas.
I plan to post my findings over the weekend.


Re. Ka vs K (not to get too off topic) gun prevalence -
I also thought K was going away till Mike 'Nine_C1' noted recently that a number of municipalities are switching (once they retire their Ka guns) back to K band guns due to budgets etc.
There are newer K guns being marketed (not stale outdated models).

This is mixed news IMHO - K is, as has been noted here, typically easier to detect further out than Ka (assuming we're comparing the same modes, i.e. Ka C/O vs K C/O or Ka I/O vs K I/O) but K alerts are also more readily dimissed as falses.

The municipalities by me (up North) are savvy in that they get the low power deadly Stalker (34.7 Ka) models, not the Ka radar guns I evidenced being used in Edison NJ about 3 years ago or so that are easier to detect at long distances.


Back on topic, I'll post my new area findings this weekend.
Regardless of whether they are NOW going to get more "cheaper" K units, its still NOT K you have to worry about with the Max, the Redline or nearly any other manufactured unit. They all seem to do well on C/O K band. The real issue can be the nasty IO in K or any Ka iteration. Please dont rely on a fixed CO K band sign to test the effectiveness of the Max or any other unit. Like I said above (and the prior post did from Arkansas), CO K is easy pickings. Its the Ka and the IO K and Ka that you really have to worry about. There's even nasty IO X that some states have out east.
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Since 1.6 I'm often getting ridiculously long range on Ka. Often, it's so far that I'm thinking it's not legit...then I drive past a LEO.

Coincidence or not...it's crazy.
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If budgets are that tight then how about a resurgence of MPH Industries i/O X band? They're cheaper than K band.
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If budgets are that tight then how about a resurgence of MPH Industries i/O X band? They're cheaper than K band.
and they're darned good too!!! Problem is, Many states, for various reasons, including legislative, NO longer allow X band (or even K band) and the large majority are now using Ka and/or lidar!!! For example, you can't even use X band in FL. Its NOT authorized!!
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and they're darned good too!!! Problem is, Many states, for various reasons, including legislative, NO longer allow X band (or even K band) and the large majority are now using Ka and/or lidar!!! For example, you can't even use X band in FL. Its NOT authorized!!
Here in Ohio they use em all.. Also most LEO's don't like Lidar cause they have to work to hard to get your speed. I know because I know most of the Local LEO's and have talked with them.
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Here in Ohio they use em all.. Also most LEO's don't like Lidar cause they have to work to hard to get your speed. I know because I know most of the Local LEO's and have talked with them.
That's correct, OH has the whole buffet of bands. Most other states DO NOT use X and few use K anymore except for old guns and speed signs. The predominant form of enforcement in GA is lidar however.....................
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Regardless of whether they are NOW going to get more "cheaper" K units, its still NOT K you have to worry about with the Max, the Redline or nearly any other manufactured unit. They all seem to do well on C/O K band. The real issue can be the nasty IO in K or any Ka iteration. Please dont rely on a fixed CO K band sign to test the effectiveness of the Max or any other unit. Like I said above (and the prior post did from Arkansas), CO K is easy pickings. Its the Ka and the IO K and Ka that you really have to worry about. There's even nasty IO X that some states have out east.

Right, I thought I wrote that I was planning all along to test against Ka.
The K band test was just an initial interim test, simply for comparison to my last Max and mutually exclusive from any Ka testing, for which I have to wait for an actual LEO encounter which can take 1 day to 3 or 4 days to encounter.

I always test Ka since 34.7
a) is the most prevalent (we don't have 35.5 and 33.8 up here and K is only used in my town)
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b) far more difficult to detect (with my Redline, more encounters than with my Max (having owned the former 2 years 7 months), I usually get ~ 2/10 mile or so agst the tricky local Stalker guns.
By contrast I got a full 7/10 mile in town (in summer with lots of tree cover) agst a K band LEO.

The other day Max #3 was similar to prior detections with my Max #2 within 55 or 60 feet.


The real test with my current Max will be Ka (34.7 in my case since that is prevalent in my neck of the woods) for the reasons above, and also given that my prior Max (#2) was found by Escort to have 'definite hardware issues' as Larry noted yesterday or the day before.



FF slightly / somewhat off-axis I/O Ka is deadly.
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[quote=EscortRadar;77749]Thanks cruiser66. I'm looking forward to your updates.



On Ka low and mid your Max will probably destroy your RedLine and it should come real close on Ka high. QUOTE]

Really Larry? If the MAX DESTROYS the Redline in low/mid Ka I will be one impressed driver, seriously! I want to see the tests. Wow!
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Larry would it be possible to buy one of these units with 1.6 beta? I live by GSP and drive a decent amount where there's a lot k and KA encounters. Been waiting for the fuzz to die on issues but having used 9500ix and now redline I miss the auto learn badly. Lol anyways I be interested if it's an option. I also saw a video there's a 2.0 version? I figure that might be a mistake but was curious
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Larry would it be possible to buy one of these units with 1.6 beta? I live by GSP and drive a decent amount where there's a lot k and KA encounters. Been waiting for the fuzz to die on issues but having used 9500ix and now redline I miss the auto learn badly. Lol anyways I be interested if it's an option. I also saw a video there's a 2.0 version? I figure that might be a mistake but was curious

1.6 beta was released to one person or perhaps a few selected folks *before* 1.6 was officially released.

There is no reason to want 1.6 beta since 1.6 Production has been available for about 2 weeks already and can be installed by all Max owners via Detector Tools.


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New Max Day Two (Oct 25)
I used my Max during a 20 minute drive this morning, but did not encounter any Ka (so far) today (although we did not drive anywhere near the GS Parkway though since this was not in my area).

We got a number of K alerts (lane avoidance systems), but nothing special and no LEO's confirmed, except perhaps the last K band alert (hard to tell though given the distance to an apparent LEO far ahead driving the same direction, alert pattern and frequencies observed, as well as traffic).

I'll have Max with us as we drive home tonight and also as we head further North tomorrow.
Hopefully tomorrow will be more interesting from a detection standpoint - we will likely be on I-287 which is the last place I saw laser enforcement here in NJ which was back in March (I have not been driving as much since summer though) - keep in mind I am not on 287 that much and on the GSP they have not been as active with laser, or even radar, lately, although some of it is simply timing and good or bad luck, depending on how you want to look at it).

We may also be on the GS Parkway tomorrow.
If so I can check for any potential 33.9xx alerts; if not I'll definitely have a chance on Monday.

By the way, I never knew how high a car's voltage gets when driving (15V when driving my car, ~ 12.5V at idle; her car read 14.1V when driving IIRC).


More to come...
Hoping for some interesting encounters tomorrow and Sunday since this morning was boring (funny how we sometimes actually want to encounter LEO's running radar - be careful what you wish for right)...

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