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Old December 15th, 2017
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EscortRadar - this is GREAT news.

Look forward to installing on my Max 2.
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Old December 15th, 2017
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Default Soooo, what's the story on the update for the Max 2?

Just checked and still no firmware update for the Max 2. I am beginning to think that Escort isn't going to release one. I was so hoping this next update would improve the BSM filtering as I am about to pitch my Max 2 given the constant K-band falses. I've been a loyal Escort customer for many years but based on what I am seeing I am about to give up on them. Does not seem to be any interest is supporting older units (and the Max 2 isn't all that old folks!). I bought the Max 2 based on the promise that it was updatable and that Escort would support it for a reasonable amount of time. Guess I was mistaken.

Escort you have lost a loyal customer.
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Just checked and still no firmware update for the Max 2. I am beginning to think that Escort isn't going to release one. I was so hoping this next update would improve the BSM filtering as I am about to pitch my Max 2 given the constant K-band falses. I've been a loyal Escort customer for many years but based on what I am seeing I am about to give up on them. Does not seem to be any interest is supporting older units (and the Max 2 isn't all that old folks!). I bought the Max 2 based on the promise that it was updatable and that Escort would support it for a reasonable amount of time. Guess I was mistaken.

Escort you have lost a loyal customer.
MAX and MAX 2 firmware update is currently expected to be released in early 2018.

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Thanks poolmon!

The latest update to the IVT Filter in our all-digital MAX detectors is amazing. Most of these false alerts are totally rejected and without a detection performance penalty. MAX and MAX 2 will receive this free software update soon, in early 2018.

Being able to offer this level of filtering is a direct result of the High Definition radar detection technology that MAX detectors offer. Other analog detectors with DSP added to them will not be able to filter out false alerts this effectively.

MAX Ci for instance detects radar like no other and is still a very quiet detector.
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Old December 15th, 2017
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Just checked and still no firmware update for the Max 2. I am beginning to think that Escort isn't going to release one. I was so hoping this next update would improve the BSM filtering as I am about to pitch my Max 2 given the constant K-band falses. I've been a loyal Escort customer for many years but based on what I am seeing I am about to give up on them. Does not seem to be any interest is supporting older units (and the Max 2 isn't all that old folks!). I bought the Max 2 based on the promise that it was updatable and that Escort would support it for a reasonable amount of time. Guess I was mistaken.

Escort you have lost a loyal customer.
Hmmmm... OK.

Before you go, though, the existing BSM filtering on the Max/Max2 is at least as good (or better) than any competitors' detectors, and the upcoming version is going to raise the BSM rejection to a much higher level. This I know.

But by all means, feel free to select another manufacturer's detector. You'll discover quickly that the same BSM signals will set of your new detector, perhaps even more so than your Max 2. I know this, too, because I've tried some of the competitors' detectors. Nevertheless, don't let me stop you. Buy a new detector and discover for yourself that it will go-off when it encounters a BSM K-band signal. I'm sure that your purchase would be money well spent.

Let's get serious, now. The issue is the that the testing and finalization of the new firmware for the Max and Max 2 takes time for testing and validation. It's not a one-and-done thing. It's a matter of testing, validation, and refining across multiple test cycles.

The most recent firmware update for the Max 360 is extremely good, and this is what's coming to the Max & Max 2. But even the firmware for the Max 360 can have punch-throughs. There is no perfect solution, but Escort's IVT filtering seems to be leading the pack.

Let's remember, everyone, that no radar detector on the market can successfully filter-out all BSM threats because most of these vehicles use exactly the same K-band frequencies that Police K-band speed guns use. This isn't the fault of the many radar detector manufacturers. It's the fault of the vehicle manufacturers who use the same frequencies, despite the fact that the FCC has allocated a separate space on K-band for BSM usage. It would be a mistake to blame the radar detector companies that their detectors are alerting to BSM signals. It's a brave effort to try to filter out the BSM signals.

Google it for yourself.
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Old December 16th, 2017
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TBNTX - I appreciate your comments but I also find it hard to believe that it is taking this long to improve BSM filtering. I have exclusively bought Escort since the late 80s. I always thought Escort had the best product but when they tell me my $550 detector can be updated but then offer no significant updates in over a year that doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

I am willing to wait for the next update but if it does not significantly improve the filtering capabilities then I will be done with Escort and will try someone else.
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TBNTX - I appreciate your comments but I also find it hard to believe that it is taking this long to improve BSM filtering. I have exclusively bought Escort since the late 80s. I always thought Escort had the best product but when they tell me my $550 detector can be updated but then offer no significant updates in over a year that doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

I am willing to wait for the next update but if it does not significantly improve the filtering capabilities then I will be done with Escort and will try someone else.
They say the update improves the Max/2 to 360 levels. Owning a 360, I can tell you the IVT filtering is incredible. It's not all powerful (still some punch throughs at close range), but I'm not picking up Honda products from a few hundred yards away like I did before. It really is that good.

My father has my old Max and is waiting for the update, and I can understand and share some frustration with how long it's taking, but you'll be thrilled when it finally drops.
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Old December 17th, 2017
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TBNTX - I appreciate your comments but I also find it hard to believe that it is taking this long to improve BSM filtering. I have exclusively bought Escort since the late 80s. I always thought Escort had the best product but when they tell me my $550 detector can be updated but then offer no significant updates in over a year that doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

I am willing to wait for the next update but if it does not significantly improve the filtering capabilities then I will be done with Escort and will try someone else.
I have a 360c and the filtering difference between it and my MAX1 is like night and day. If the proposed update to the MAX1/2 is anything like the 360c I certainly look forward to it.
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Old December 17th, 2017
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Thanks for the feedback. I am encouraged to hear from you 360 users that the filtering is much improved. Still, it seems to me that we Max/Max 2 users have suffered for way too long.

Proof will be in the pudding as they say.

Jury is still out.
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Old January 4th, 2018
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Larry @ EscortRadar - any news on the upcoming software update?
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No news yet. It'll be a few weeks at the earliest.
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