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Old February 8th, 2010
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Adding Ka to Truelock is under review. I cannot guarantee an outcome one way the other but I can guarantee you that I am making Escort aware of your opinions about it
I would totally LOVE this! I have about 5 spots where there are 35.9xx false alerts. There would be absolutely zero possibility that locking these out could cause me to miss a real alert. It almost cost me a ticket once as a LEO running C/O 35.5 was coming at me in one of these areas after I had muted the Ka band false alert. If I hadn't glanced up at the display, I would have never known that the frequency had changed from 35.9xx to 35.5xx.
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I would totally LOVE this! I have about 5 spots where there are 35.9xx false alerts. There would be absolutely zero possibility that locking these out could cause me to miss a real alert. It almost cost me a ticket once as a LEO running C/O 35.5 was coming at me in one of these areas after I had muted the Ka band false alert. If I hadn't glanced up at the display, I would have never known that the frequency had changed from 35.9xx to 35.5xx.
Yes! with good band segmentation and smart users like us it would be very useful (manually). But the only sign by me is 34.7 and so are the LEO's.
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If it takes 3 passes to Truloc a false what are the odds of the same Leo being in the same spot at 3 different times? I'll take those odds.
AutoLearn with KA would be a huge liability to the user, manual option only is ok. Just look at trapster and how they use there database verification. LEO's absolutely sit in the same spot quite frequently.

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I have the 9500ci, what is the MHZ block for that?
same as 9500ix, with slight variations from model to model.
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Old February 9th, 2010
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Truelock on Ka is a bit more risky than K-Band. We're not talking weak off-axis door sensors here...........rather full power drones (that use the same transmitters as the real thing) targeted at traffic. So lockout areas could be rather LARGE.

Also.........using 30 mhz wide lockout blocks are too broad for Ka band. Unlike the Walmart door sensors, I've seen plenty of Stalker antennas transmitting +/- 15 mhz from the 34.7 center frequency.

Band Segmentation would cure the 35.9 falses that DJ is experiencing, but would not be effective against the 34.7 drones out there. I'd say a unique approach to Ka Band truelock is necessary. Perhaps a truelocked Ka signal should always give an intitial alert and then mute the signal while displaying the frequency and spinning icon..........then unmute if another Ka band signal is picked up outside the locked out block.

And I agree with CJ..........Ka Band is not a good candidate for Autolearn.
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Old February 16th, 2010
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A way to deal with Ka band false alerts - I have three places around town and have seen a few other places that have Ka band false alerts at 35.9XX on my spec display. There is about a 10 mile stretch on I-10 outside of Blythe, Ca, where my 9500ci will alert constantly on 35.9XX. There is no police radar threat in the US anywhere near that frequency. The reason that Escort does not allow lockouts in the Ka band is obvious. If I could shut this segment off, like what is possible on an STi-R, that would solve this problem. Or maybe some sort of firmware change that would allow limited Ka band lockouts. I'm totally open for suggestions on this one, since there are many ways to tackle this problem. I could make a video of this if Escort would like to see it.

This stretch outside Blythe is this on the west side ? sounds like you are picking up the radar from the prison on the south side of I 10
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8. A way to deal with Ka band false alerts - I have three places around town and have seen a few other places that have Ka band false alerts at 35.9XX on my spec display. There is about a 10 mile stretch on I-10 outside of Blythe, Ca, where my 9500ci will alert constantly on 35.9XX. There is no police radar threat in the US anywhere near that frequency. The reason that Escort does not allow lockouts in the Ka band is obvious. If I could shut this segment off, like what is possible on an STi-R, that would solve this problem. Or maybe some sort of firmware change that would allow limited Ka band lockouts. I'm totally open for suggestions on this one, since there are many ways to tackle this problem. I could make a video of this if Escort would like to see it.

That's all I can think of for now.

Thanks, DJ.
sounds like the ground radar at the prison on south side of interstate on west side of Town
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Old February 20th, 2010
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What a great thread. I'm impressed with the level of knowledge many of the users have. It is even beyond most amateur radio users (these days). And there are some great ideas coming out here that I hope Escort is going to adopt. I'm also impressed with the reception (no pun intended) Escort Rep is displaying. Looks like a good relationship. Not many companies are that open.

I hesitate to buy the 9500ci, or even the ZR4 add-on, because of the weak Lidar protection compared to Blinder Extreme or LI. Not near strong enough! I can only imagine Lidar guns will get stronger and stronger. We need a solution that stays ahead of the curve...and we need it yesterday. I like the idea of it interfacing with my 9500ix, but why pay for the other controller box (and a "optional" link cable) if I intend to use it with my Belscort detector? So Escort needs to improve the performance and packaging on the ZR series. I would also recommend providing an upgrade path for the next generation (did I mention we need that yesterday?), so that there is no need to buy the whole package...just replacement heads.

Although the Ka TrueLock (not AutoLern) is a good idea, better Lidar protection is a must. That should be priority one!

Thanks for listening.

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Hi all, here's another one for the wish list.....

It would be great to see a Safety/red light camera database available for Australia. I'm very happy with my 9500ci and the only thing missing is a GPS database for Australia. There are more and more Aussies purchasing these units down under and it would be a very welcolme addition.

Are there any plans for this in the future?
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Old February 24th, 2010
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The Beltronics STi-R Plus has a Australian/New Zealand database. The STi-R Plus is a very similar product to the 9500ci. The 9500ci is a North American product, I'm surprised it is even being offered in Australia. I hope those offering the 9500ci down under let customers know that the camera database is North American only.

For more information about the STi-R Plus, the Beltronics authorized distributor in Australia is:

Neltronics AU/NZ
U4/ 50 Jersey Street
Subiaco, Western Australia 6008
Tel: +61 8 9383 7833
Fax; +61 8 9383 7933
www.neltronics.com.au
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Hi, yes the 9500ci is definately sold in Australia along with the Bel STi-R Plus. The STi-R Plus is a great product, however it costs anywhere between AUD1800-AUD1999.00 to purchase here in Australia (and that's without shifters). Add shifters and install to this and you're looking at AUD3000+.
In contrast, i can purchase the 9500ci directly from the US (as many here have done) for less than half the price. A huge difference considering they are very similar products. I know warranty could be an issue but the 9500ci is a well made product and the chances of something going wrong are very slim. I've had no problems with mine at all, it works perfectly in Australia and i love it.
Also as the Bel & Escort are very similar products, i wonder why the GPS database for Australia (available for the Bel) can't be uploaded into the 9500ci? Or can it? The database issue is a minor complaint only as i can still mark locations but it would be nice to have.

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